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| Moderator hier waren mal Sternchen
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 |  verfasst         Die Kapseln aus Thailand sind "diet pills" mit diversen Bestandteilen, z. B. Ma-Huang = Ephedrin oder ähnlichem.
 Macht wach und hippelig.
 
 
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| chris User
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 |  verfasst           Liebster Moderator,
 ist das tatsächlich ThaiAmphetamin? Nicht wirklich... ?
 Chris
 
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| Miss_Detroit 
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 |  verfasst         Ich habe da auch an was anderes gedacht...
 
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| ann 
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 |  verfasst         @chris...nun habt ihr mich neugierig gemacht, was ist es denn??? ich hab den namen zwar schon mal gehoert, aber mehr auch nich...
 ann
 
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| essance 
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 |  verfasst         @moderator meinst du nicht eher Hummeln?
 
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| Miss_Detroit 
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 |  verfasst         @chris
 was weisst Du denn darüber?
 
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 |  verfasst     Hmm, ich hab nur von Thai-Massagen gehört.
 Die sollen aber auch viel Spass machen ...
 
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 |  verfasst     MH oh ja find ich auch lecker
   
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| chris User
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 |  verfasst           Chris hat im Netz mal wieder gesucht, und ein paar Statements gefunden, here we go...
 "Cheap amphetamines, known in Thailand as "yaa baa" (crazy drug),
 have flooded Thai towns and cities and led to a rapid rise in
 addiction, crime and violence, especially among young people."
 aus einem Drogen-Bericht vom Juni99 über 'Thai Amphetamine' und OpiumProduktion.
 4.8.97/BANGKOK POST
 SUBIN KHERNKAEW
 MAE SAI, CHIANG RAI
 2 MILLION SPEED PILLS SEIZED IN SIX MONTHS Police here are fighting a no-win war in their desperate attempt to stem the influx of amphetamine from Burma. In the past six months, two million amphetamine tablets were confiscated in this northern province alone according to Pol Col Panurat Meepien, the provincial police superintendent. But the seized drug accounted for just a fraction of the actual amount of the speed pills which were smuggled into the country, particularly through the Mae Sai-Tachilek border.entnommen: siehe oben.
 Thailand still does not seem to understand it has to clean up its act:
 A junior army officer has implicated a major-general and three politicians as key players in one of the country's biggest amphetamine rackets. "
 BANGKOK, Jan 9 (Reuters) - Europe is the new target destination for amphetamines produced in the notorious Golden Triangle straddling the borders of Myanmar, Thailand and Laos, a Thai newspaper said on Saturday.   und hier die wirklichen Infos    'Mad Drug' Menace Spreads in Thailand
 
 
 By Prangtip Daorueng
 
 BANGKOK, Jun 19 (IPS) - Truck drivers discovered it first, and soon
 even gas stations were offering it along with fuel. But now even Thai
 teenagers are taking what has become known as the ''mad drug'' and the
 country's authorities have found themselves facing yet another front
 in the battle against drug abuse.
 
 Also known as ''horse drug'' among Thais, amphetamines have been
 popular for several years now among truck drivers and other employees
 facing long hours of work.
 
 ''It keeps us awake at night and it is very easy to find,'' says
 Bangkok taxi driver Somepong Noilaead, who used to drive a truck.
 ''Usually we buy it at the gas station.''
 
 Aside from keeping the user from falling asleep, amphetamines can also
 distort one's mind. Somepong himself confesses: ''Everybody knows the
 drug can drive you crazy too if you don't know how to take it.''
 
 But the drug's promise of an energy burst attracted even teenagers in
 high school and college who believed taking amphetamines could keep
 them awake through nightlong cramming sessions. Its ready availability
 made it all the more popular among the country's youth who now
 consider taking it as being in fashion as well.
 
 Frustrated authorities began taking tough measures against amphetamine
 dealer gangs last year. Extra-judicial killings of suspected dealers
 of the drug are even believed to have taken place during the
 administration of Gen Chavalit Yongchaiyudh.
 
 But there is no sign that the menace has been licked. Indeed,
 indications are that demand for the stimulant has increased sharply,
 and suppliers are doing brisk business despite the stepped-up drive
 against the amphetamine cartels.
 
 ''It is very difficult to make students stay far from drugs because
 many of them already live in the community surrounded by drug users,''
 says one schoolteacher in a slum area here.
 
 ''Although schools try their best to prevent the problem, we have
 found some students using it anyway,'' she adds. ''Now what is being
 used most is amphetamine because it is cheaper than other kinds of
 drugs and easier to get.''
 
 Thai officials estimate that as many as one million Thais may be
 addicted to amphetamines, although independent observers say the
 number could be higher.
 
 The first local clandestine amphetamine laboratory was found in a
 Bangkok suburb in 1986. Prior to that, Thailand's amphetamine supply
 was believed to be from sources outside South-east Asia. Today, the
 production base is said to be in neighbouring countries, while the
 ever-growing market remains in Thailand.
 
 Unlike heroin, amphetamines are easy to produce and sell, said a Thai
 trader near the Burmese border. Mobile labs are easy to set up in
 jungles and remote areas. ''Raw materials and pressing machines -
 that's all you need,'' he said.
 
 According to Dr Vichai Poshyachinda, a drug expert and member of
 Thailand's Narcotic Control Board, the shift of production base from
 Thailand to Indochinese countries and Burma was the result of tougher
 Thai controls on the production and sale of substances such as
 ephedrine.
 
 And while Thailand and its five Mekong neighboring countries this
 month pledged to a united fight against drug abuse during the special
 session on drugs of the United Nations General Assembly in New York,
 mainland South-east Asian authorities may already be far behind the
 drug cartels in terms of accomplishment.
 
 Vichai says with Thai drug dealers now allied with their Lao and
 Burmese counterparts to produce the illicit stimulants in nearby
 countries, Thailand itself will have more difficulties stopping the
 abuse of amphetamines and other such drugs. Worse, he says, Thailand
 itself may someday become an amphetamine supplier to other markets.
 
 ''It becomes as clear as jigsaw pieces falling into place that Thai
 drug cartels are on their way to becoming major suppliers of
 amphetamine in the international market,'' says Vichai.
 
 He cites a recent Lao recent anti-drug report that says most of the
 amphetamine production cases there involved imports of the substance
 for the purpose of re-export, either to avoid import tax in the target
 countries or to divert the substances for illegal purpose.
 
 According to the report, which was submitted to an international
 seminar on drug-abuse problems held here recently, a raid on a drug
 laboratory in the Laotian northwest led to the arrest of 25 suspects,
 including seven Thais and 10 Burmese.
 
 Many of the ingredients used in the manufacture of the drugs there
 were apparently also imported from nearby nations.
 
 Another report made by the Burmese government noted that although
 stimulant and hallucinogen abuse were not popular in Burma, there has
 been a disturbing number of arrests made in recent years in connection
 with the production and trafficking of amphetamine.
 
 In 1990, for example, Burmese authorities made arrests in 13 cases of
 amphetamine production and trafficking, seizing 5.9 million tablets.
 Last year, there were nine recorded similar cases, with a seizure of
 more than 1.1 million tablets.
 
 Vichai says it is also known that ephedrine is being sent from China
 to Thailand through Burma's Shan state. He points out that the Golden
 Triangle where Thai, Burmese and Lao borders meet and which is
 notorious as a major production area of opium has now expanded its
 output to include large supplies of methamphetamine.
 
 ''It is clear that the abuse of stimulants is fostered simultaneously
 by intra-and extra-regional supplies,'' says Vichai. He adds that
 while the manufacture of illegal drugs in the Asian countries is
 evidently confined to methamphetamine, abuse of illegal stimulants
 includes the Ecstasy group of amphetamine derivatives and cocaine.
 
 ''Mad drug is attacking everyone in our soceity, but no one is
 prepared to face the problem seriously,'' said a Thai businessman
 whose son was a former drug addict. (END/IPS/AP/PD/AZ/CB/RAL/98)
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------  So, und nun grübelt und sucht Euch das Fazit   Chris
 
 
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| KryStuff 
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 |  verfasst           ooooooooohhhhhhaaaaaaaa zu viel kein bock da anzufangen!!!
 
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| pete [eastend outlaw]
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 |  verfasst           hee chris!
 lupenreine recherche! echt klasse.
 
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| Moderator hier waren mal Sternchen
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 |  verfasst         Alle Achtung, Chris, da bist Du ja in ein gutes Archiv eingedrungen.
 ... und ich lag nicht so ganz falsch *g*
 Freunde, die Dez. und Jan. in Thailand waren, erzählten von neuen Pillen, die unter der Hand verkauft würden: Super-Turn, psychedelisch, haluzinogen und aktiv-wach zugleich, aber böses Erwachen am nächsten Morgen... ... aber so ist das bei Pillen, you never know, you gonna get...
 
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 |  verfasst     Ketamin?
 
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| Miss_Detroit 
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 |  verfasst         Die Infos sind aus dem Stern (Ausgabe 51, 16.12.99).
 
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| Moderator hier waren mal Sternchen
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 |  verfasst         na dann, der STERN muss es ja wissen *g*
 
 
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 |  verfasst     Gerade gefunden: (die Quelle weiß ich nicht, hab ich in einem anderen Forum gefunden)
 Warnung vor Pillen thailändischen Ursprungs "Thai-Pillen" genannt. Erste Laboruntersuchungen verdeutlichten, dass es sich bei den sogenannten Thai-Pillen" nicht wie ursprünglich angenommen um Ecstasy, sondern um Methamphetamin handelte. Methamphetamin wirkt viel stärker und birgt daher ein sehr grosses Gefahrenpotential sowie ein sehr hohes und schnelles Abhängigkeitspotential. Der Konsum dieser Pillen kann keinesfalls mit dem Konsum von Ecstasy-Tabletten verglichen werden, sondern muss dem extrem gefährlichen Konsum von Crack (= Kokainkristalle) gleichgestellt werden. Die Symptome des Konsums der Thai-Pillen, die stark nach Vanille schmecken und etwas kleiner als Ecstasy-Tabletten sind, können wie folgt beschrieben werden:
 1. Das sehr starke Aufputschmittel macht euphorisch, steigert massiv die Aggressivität, führt zu überhöhtem Selbstvertrauen und erhöhter Aufmerksamkeit und gibt dem Konsumenten ein Gefühl von überschäumender Energie.
 2. Der hohe oder regelmässige Konsum des Rauschmittels führt zu Nervosität, Reizbarkeit und Wahnvorstellungen, was eine plötzliche und unberechenbare Gewaltbereitschaft zur Folge hat.
 3. Die Wirkung hält zwischen 8 und 24 Stunden an
 4. Der Konsum führt zu Appetitlosigkeit, chronischen Schlafstörungen und schlussendlich zu schweren und irreparablen psychischen Störungen und Depressionen
 5. Gemäss den derzeitigen medizinischen Erkenntnissen kann der Konsum zu einem teilweisen oder sogar gänzlichen Verlust des Gedächtnisses führen. Die Folge davon ist die Invalidität.
 Die Thai-Pillen haben sich in den vergangenen zwei Jahren stark verbreitet. Dies ist auch darauf zurückzuführen, dass diese Pillen im Vergleich zu Ecstasy billiger sind.
 
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| ann 
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 |  verfasst         hmmm...agressivitaet, erhoetes selbstvertrauen, reizbarkeit, teilweiser verlust des gedaechtnis...hoert sich an wie alkohol!!!
 wird das zeuch denn unter dem namen ectasy verkauft??? hoert sich ja eher nach dem gegenteil von xtc an!!!
 das macht einem ja richtig angst...
 *schuettel*
 ann
 
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| essance 
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 |  verfasst         apropos Vanillegeschmack, kennt jemand Marzipan? Ich weiß, daß es ein Speed-derivat ist, würde mich aber interessieren, was es genau ist, da die Wirkung normales Speed um einiges übertrifft.
 
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 |  verfasst     Alkohol? Nee, klingt eher nach Mischung aus Amphetamin und Koks...
 
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 |  verfasst     pille pille kille kille....ansonsten soll jeder nach sein gutdünken.aber wenn´s schon thai sein muss: thai red bull, gibts bei gute apotheker hier bei uns und das knallt wach - nur einen robusten magen solltet ihr schon haben. ansonsten bleibe ich bei den erfindern egal was für ein produkt es istz...
 
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| essance 
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 |  verfasst         Marzipan ist ein weisses Pulver, aber viel klumpiger, als normales Speed, und auch ganz schwer 'klein' zu kriegen. Der Geschmack ist ziemlich süßlich, naja und die Wirkung ist um einiges länger und extremer. Dafür das Runterkommen auch...
 
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